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New idea: Re-linkable libraries in ForwardCom
Author:  Date: 2017-05-10 16:43
Agner wrote:
Maybe we need a system where each plugin is running as a separate thread or process where we can control its access rights?
I think that class of problem tend to be already solvable using IPC (inter process communication)... And it wouldn't address some of the use cases I've seen:

- Java-C++ interfacing is done with DLLs on windows, and presumably programs do tons of small function calls back and forth, and do stuff like sharing large arrays in memory. The first generation of Android apps have a ton of this stuff going on (to interface between C++ code and Android's Java APIs), and getting the thread-to-thread overhead every time you read a button or something like that would've been a problem.
- Some script languages also use dynamic linking to interface with C++ (like, I think Python does this), and they will do tons and tons of small function calls.
- Audio processing plugins need to run in the same thread as the caller because they use tiny buffers (like, 1ms tiny - which means that the whole processing of a block of audio must take less than 0.001s before sending to the audio hardware every single time). If the OS's scheduler gets involved in any way you'll have dropouts for sure.
- Some game engines allow for plugins to extend features, which might require sharing access to very large data structures like level data in memory.

In a way, this reminds me of the whole micro-kernel thing, which had the same issue but between the applications and system modules (applications don't want to wait after the scheduler to call system module functions!).

 
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